Review: 2012-13 Panini Timeless Treasures Basketball

Timeless Treasures basketball has arrived featuring the one pack per tin content that many collectors enjoy due to its quick break that yields plenty of hits. The product has returned this year after last year’s lockout and come with a few base cards and three hits per tin. With the double rookie class, there are a ton of great rookies for you to find in the product, with the chance at some solid veteran content as well. Want to see what you can find in a typical box? Here we go:

Design:4 and half stars blue

The design of the product is simple and elegant all around. I have to start by saying that I really enjoy products that come in collectible packaging. Specialized tins and wood boxes are under utilized in the hobby today and provide a collectible that many like to keep to either store cards or display. I received a Kobe Bryant tin and it looks great. Might I make a suggestion to hide the identity of who is on the tin and include rare autographed tins? That may increase the length of time to work on packaging, but wouldn’t a Kobe autographed tin be kinda cool? Other than that, the base design of the product is simple and utilizes foil in all the best ways highlighting exactly what is needed. I also enjoy the acetate rookie autographs where they sign what seems to be a super large sticker. (You can see an example of the super large sticker on a card from my Absolute basketball break.) But overall, sometimes simplistic is best and this product showcases that.

Checklist:4 stars blue

The double rookie class means there are generally more rookies this season, and that is both a good thing and a bad thing. The good thing being that you can get some solid rookies from the past couple of years. The bad thing is there isn’t as much veteran content to fill the product and you can also find some scrub rookies from the past couple of years. It’s a difficult proposition and while it made the product cheaper to produce (most likely) the content isn’t as good as it could have been.

Value:4 stars blue

Right now, you can find the product for $87 at DA Card World which isn’t a bad deal itself. At three hits per box, you have the chance for some decent cards as always. This isn’t really a set building product unless you are building the rookie autographs which are definitely appealing to the eyes. Other than that though, you may end up with 3 rookie hits or a couple and a plain game used card like my box. Most previews and sell sheets say the product guarantees at least one on-card autograph, but that was not the case here and many others I’ve seen. That doesn’t hurt too much, but it would have been nice to have one.

Overall:4 stars blue

Overall, not a terrible product from Panini at all. The product looks nice and I really like the rookie autographs on the acetate and stickers. It would have been nicer to see those directly on the acetate, but the sticker doesn’t look totally bad in it’s place. It’s something that looks even better with the sticker area being cut out as opposed to just a sticker. The checklist is what you’d expect this season, heavy on the rookies, which still needs to be toned down a little. But the value is there at the current price of the product. I’d pick up a tin or two, especially if you like collecting the different player tins as well as the cards. It’s a nice little bonus for collectors.

Once again, a big thanks goes out to Panini America for providing this product to review. You can find them online on their official site, blog, Facebook, and Twitter accounts.

You can also find that full checklist over on Cardboard Connection.

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Preview: 2011 Panini Timeless Treasures Football

Timeless Treasures is coming to football!

With Panini just posting more and more images and other great stuff about 2011 Timeless Treasures football I had to write the preview post for this product a little bit early. But first I need to show off this little graphic and get your opinion on something:

Okay, you see that little promo picture up there? You see those mini cards in that promo picture? I’m 99% sure they don’t have mini cards in this product. How cool would those mini cards actually look if they were actually inserted into the product? Sure we only see mini cards in baseball products but just imagine the black and white or sepia like mini with a design around the edges to make it look like the edges are rounded or there are creases in the card but in actuality it is as mint as can be. See those cards in that graphic? I want those cards to be real. If you think so too, please make sure you comment that you want to see those made. There is still time to get them in! My rant is done…

Okay, now let’s get into what is really in this product. This product  comes with 5 cards per pack and 1 pack per tin. I love the use of tins as boxes as it adds another cool collector’s item. Just had to mention that. There will be 3 autographed or memorabilia hits per tin with a guarantee of at least one of them being an autograph. Everything will numbered to 499 or less when it comes to hits. And of course, 2 base cards.

For such a small amount of cards per pack it has a huge base set at 225 cards to collect for just the base set consisting of 100 commons, 25 legends, and 100 rookies. Again, Panini is packing another product with a ton of rookies which is both good and bad at the same time.

But I’m sure you want to know what kind of hits you can pull from this. Again, Panini is returning the on-leather autographed embedded cards. I put these into the same realm as manufactured patches and I just don’t like them. I’ve heard about problems with bleeding from these cards over the course of time so that can’t be very good and I hope they at least fixed that issue. Along with those, you will be able to find some rookie, veteran, and retired shield autographs as well which is always a hot seller and a collector favorite.

You will also be able to find Hall of Famers Marshall Faulk and Deion Sanders on special Hall of Fame 2011 cards. Speaking of Hall of Famers, you’ll be able to find cut autographs of greats like Jim Thorpe and Red Grange in this product as well.

But I’m skipping to my favorite thing in this product which Panini has showcased recently. Game Date Souvenirs. This is something that collectors have been asking for awhile. Game day photography coupled with the actual game used jersey from that game and printing when it was used on that same card. Finally, we know when it was used, how it was used, and what awesome things happened during that game. Imagine pulling a jersey card from the game in which you attended your first game or a patch card with a ton of dirt when your favorite player made a game saving tackle. This is very cool and is something every company should be doing and Panini is leading the way with this product. I think it will definitely excite even those who aren’t huge into game used pieces just knowing more about the memorabilia itself. As I said, Panini recently showcased some of the jerseys they just got in for this product and you have to check them out before they cut them up. I’m seeing some gross, dirty, sweaty jerseys being put into these cards.

Overall, I think it looks like a great product, with or without my addition of wanting mini cards. But I still think they’d be awesome. If you want to see some more images from this product you need to visit Panini’s blog post about premiering 2011 Panini Timeless Treasures.

This product is set to release on September 7, 2011, for a retail price of…I don’t know. Let’s take an educated guess based off of last year’s basketball product and say a little less than $100? I’ll stick with that until I hear something different. But it’s probably pretty close.

How was the base card design, actually designed?

Take a look at the Legends subset from the official Panini blog.

Check out these sweet beat up looking inserts. Whether or not I had any input on the creation of these inserts is still up in the air and I’m waiting to find out.